Stop the Scam

Kumusta?

I am a Filipina nurse working in Hamilton (a city in the north island not hit by the earthquake- thank God). Myself and the rest of the Filipino community feel upset about the tragedy in Christchurch, and it hits close to home as some of us know the people involved and are also Filipino nurses who came here with hopes of a better life.

I don’t know exactly how to impart my thoughts, but I feel that the media should be involved in exposing the english for nursing registration scams that a lot of our nurses are falling prey on. Yes, it is sickening to know that these scams are around, and that it may well be fellow Filipinos looking for a quick buck who are behind them… and yes, they have to be exposed.

Those Filipino nurses studying english in the fallen CTV bldg would have not been there in the first place have these scams not been around. I have heard personal stories from nurses who have failed to pass their IELTS who come here to study english to take IELTS in hopes of getting a registration, a job offer, and an approval from immigration to stay.

They have been promised that as they have contacts with a local NZ recruitment agency and “by operating as a temporary employment agency, is able to employ you in part time work while you are studying, as well as in full time work as a registered nurse once you have met the Nursing Council of New Zealand requirements. Employment is usually in aged care facilities.”

(http://www.kingseducation.co.nz/uploadedfiles/file/A4%20Healthcare%20English.pdf)

the statement gives the nurses in the Philippines who only want to give their family a better future despite having to leave their love ones behind (and probably having to loan a huge amount of money) that meeting the Nursing Council requirements is a fast-track.

I have to say this is not so… I believe that some agencies also try to attract their preys by saying that they can work part-time. part-time means 20hrs a week if you can find it (mahirap maghanap ng jobs here now-even locals are having problems)… and 20hrs a week of minimum wage. 12nzd/hr equates to about 240nzd/week before taxes. Yes, that may be about what a nurse would earn in Philippines a month for 20hrs worth of work. But they never really show the real numbers. 5000-9000nzd for the tuition, an unfurnished room to rent in NZ on a average is 150nzd/week, lunch at the cafeteria is 6-15nzd/meal, what about other expenses? plus most of the jobs they offer are back breaking care-giver work in a resthome.

And then at the end, they fail the IELTS anyway, and have to go back home. or pass the IELTS and have no funds to process their papers, much more to take the nursing bridging course program (another 5000nzd for the course). I still don’t get my head around how the scammers talked these knowledgeable professionals into spending over half a million pesos to go overseas to prepare for an exam that will cost 5,000-10,000pesos in the Philippines

I have met Filipinas who are doing the course now, and even with the 20hrs/week, they have to depend on charity from fellow Filipinos for shelter (as noted rent is 150nzd/wk on average) so they can save even a little bit to pay back the loans they have taken in Philippines so they can come over. They by the way, are on their way back to Philippines soon as they know the real deal now. :/

I have asked them if they have complained in the agencies website to warn the others, and they said that the websites of the agencies they have been through are usually unavailable by the time they realize that they have been fooled, so they don’t really know who to complain to.

In the few years that I have worked here, I have met so many nurses who are here as care-givers even… these are nurses who have far more experience and knowledge than myself multiplied by 3. They came to study to become care-givers and then work as one only because they did not meet the IELTS criteria… they came hoping to earn enough to pay the loan they took in PH and take the IELTS so they can process be nurses too. Most of them have been here working for years now, and still have not managed to make it as registered nurses. Worse, I have known of Filipino care-givers whose work visa and permit were refused to be renewed by the immigration because of the shortage of jobs in NZ and they are prioritizing the locals vacancy-wise and they had no choice but to go back home.

My point is, it is not as easy as what the scammers make it. Besides, for an NZ local, they don’t even need to finish any schooling or even formal training to become care-givers here (which is a pain really, not to mention unsafe). The next paragraph may be boring to you, but i’ll let you in on the process we took to get a job as nurses.

I, and my fellow Filipino nurses at work, had taken our IELTS in the Philippines.

And even having done so there, had taken us a good few months to get things sorted with the Nursing Council of NZ to take the nurse bridging program (also known as Competency Assessment Program for Foreign Nurses or CAP).

To take the CAP you have to be able to enroll in a NZ nursing school that offers the 6-8week course, and that spells more money. After the CAP, and you get your registration (and contrary to what some people in Philippines think, if you are a graduate of CAP – no, you don’t need to take the NZ nurses exam).

The registration will take approximately 4 weeks. If you don’t meet their criteria, i.e. number of nursing hours worked, you may not even be given registration after all you troubles.

Post-registration, you still need to find a job offer to have the NZ immigration give u a work visa and permit to stay and work legally (and honestly, even NZ local graduates are hard pressed to find jobs in NZ now). and processing the work permit will take time too. Our batch came over to study CAP on September 2007, and most of us only got to start work on January of 2008. That’s months of spending pesos in NZ, most of us had to take a loan from families who are also overseas.

between IELTS

-NZQA (these are the people who assess your academic qualifications in NZ)

-Nursing Council approval to take CAP

-CAP

-registration with Nursing Council

-job hunting to get a job offer so you can apply to work visa/permit

-processing paperwork with NZ immigration and actually working as a nurse and getting the nurse rate (which is twice that of a caregiver)… it’s a long process.

It is not as quick and easy as some of the agency scammers make it. There are a lot of forums online where u can find conversations about the scams.

Some are:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/immigration/news/article.cfm?c_id=231&objectid=10496907&ref=rss

http://www.backpack-newzealand.com/nz/article3065-15.php

http://www.backpack-newzealand.com/nz/article2837-45.php

Myself and my Filipino nurse friends here hope that you will EXPOSE this so we can prevent more Filipino nurses victimized into taking what I now call “a very long and hope-depreciating vacation that most of them can’t afford”.

Personally, I am infuriated because our fellow countrymen who perished in Christchurch who are in that language school would NOT have been there in the first place have they not been scammed. They are Filipino
nurses who, if given the right information and pointed to the right avenues, would have been working in the hospitals right now helping out those that are injured by the quake…instead of being part of the rubble being unearthed.

I believe that I speak for most of Filipinos in NZ when I write that, we feel for the loved ones of those who were directly affected by the earthquake, especially those who are in the Philippines. If you have contacts to their families, please let them know that the Filipinos here are organizing what resources they have spare to help in whichever way we all could, and that we are praying for them too.

ps

For those in want of a job in NZ or anywhere in the world, we implore you to go through the foreign country’s government agencies or even the foreign country’s school advisors as usually give advise for free
online. At least, read the experiences of others who have gone through it and not be swayed by promises of easy process etc. Lastly, RESEARCH— if you find that it seems too good to be true, it probably is.

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  • RJ

    dO NOT GENERALIZE.

    • grace

      To RJ > what do you mean by ” do not generalize” ? I can say that this article is a eye opener. This is the truth–and nothing else but the truth. I tell you, it is not easy to be in NZ.

      • eva balajadia

        This is indeed an eye opener. Maybe there are those who made it to NZ who did not have to go through this process. Unfortunate for those who went there only to learn they were scammed.

        IELTS can be taken here in Manila. It’s Php8-9k. If you need to enrol in a Review Center, it’s around Php5k (2weeks). There are review centers who will assist you with the application with no extra costs. Pass the IELTS first especially if this is required in a country.

    • ARNY

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      “i shall return” to PH for my 10th visit…..next month…..lets meet.

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      ARNY
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    • ARNY

      WHY NOT COMBINE YOUR NURSING DEGREE WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE TO USA & HAVE A WONDERFUL LIFE WITH THE MAN OF YOUR DREAMS ???

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  • nurshwilty

    there are a lot of institutions nowadays that have very catchy ads like “live and earn 2.5 million in australia” provided that you’ll have 7.0 score in ielts all bands and atleast have 1yr exp in hosp setup.. You need to pay them round 90,000 plus they also provided financial assistance with corresponding interest. the processing is like 6-12months. is it true that we need to take bridging courses just to have aus RN license before working there? but they dont provide employment. you’ll be the one to search for it

    • Yes, you do. Once you have completed your nursing in Philippines and have some experiences (but I am not sure on that one).

      When you do reach here in Australia, there is a bridging course that you need to undertake. It takes about 3 months.

      I am not in the medical field, but being filipino and all have heard of somebody who has and also my relatives (some) has gone through the same process.

      From what they tell me, the bridging course is for two things. Australian medical uses the English System. Philippines uses American. Also, in Australia, there is also years 11 and 12…

      Now again. this is a third base information but it is true that you do have to do a course to be a recognised RN. here.

    • Please email me at [email protected] and I will give you all the deatils on how to get to Australia. My website is http://www.australiannursingrequirements.com

  • eva b

    This is also being offered in Canada and UK. At first, I really wanted to grab this “opportunity” but on second thought, 75-90k is too much. You also need to have a “show money” or “settlement fund” around 500k. They do provide financial assistance. However, once there, you had to look for jobs yourself. They also offer employment assistance for US$2,000 fee. I declined. I don’t want to bury myself in debt.

    At the moment, our relative in Canada is sponsoring my family as “Manitoba Nominees”. I can wait, no matter how tedious and long the process is. After all, it’s “sponsorship” – Our relatives will shoulder the expenses. This is one financial assistance without interest. I’d go for it.

  • nina

    I HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE STATEMENT “DO NOT GENERALIZED”.

    If you are indeed in NZ,then you dont understand the whole situation
    Caregivers and Nurses arent complaining at all,after all they can afford here the things they cant normally acquire in the Philippines like cars,etc.

  • nina

    if your not happy then go back to the philippines and see if you can still maintain the lifestyle you are enjoying now.

    Crab mentality isnt it?

  • ARNY

    BETTER IDEA:
    FIND A NICE GUY LIKE ME TO FORM A SERIOUS, LOVING LONG TERM RELATIONSHIP……AND I WILL BE THE ONE TO BRING YOU TO USA.
    APPLICANTS NEED TO BE 18-26, SLENDER, PETITE, SINGLE, SWEET, CARING, LOVING & SEXY.
    PLZ CONTACT ME DIRECT ON YM….C2C…..arnyguapo2

    “i shall return” to PH for my 10th visit…..next month…..lets meet.

    XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO
    ARNY

  • grace

    nina said : ” Caregivers and Nurses aren’t complaining at all,after all they can afford here the things they cant normally acquire in the Philippines like cars,etc.”

    I guess you are from the agency. If you are here in NZ, and you didn’t even once hear of the story about nurses as victims of scam and crying their heart out to “kababayans” here..maybe you are not in NZ after all.

    What do you mean they can afford car? They can hardly afford to pay the week’s rent in their house or flat and they can afford car???

    Where’s the crab mentality there? This is the reality dear, wake up!

    • pinoyinnz

      I agree with Grace. I met some of these young Filipina nurses and it is so sad to know that they all have same sentiments. They’ve been scammed by those agencies. One even opted to stay illegally, he’s a male nurse bec he has a family depending upon him with huge amount of loans left behind (almost P600K) and no more work to get back to. Nina, if you are a nurse here in Hamilton or somewhere else, good on you but the point Grace is sharing us on this blog is to give an insight on what is the situation right now in New Zealand, specially the nurses. It is not the same situation during the early 2000 after the Global meltdown. My son’s mates (4 of them) Graduated at Wintech and recently passed the Nursing registration are having hard time looking for a Job. Right now they are working at nursing homes waiting for the opprtunity. One had decided to go to OZ (good him bec his parents are based there) finally landed the job he was looking here in new zealand for almost a year. by the way,I am not a nurse but I am fortunate to practice my line of profession here as a Telecom Engineer based in Hamilton. God Bless Us All!

    • In a different more “generalised” non medical issue. I do know that Filipinos coming here who has no or little support from Australia are having a hard time. I have met few friends when they get told that when they do get to Australia, everything is easy..

      Actually wrote something about it here : http://www.ozpinoy.com/philippine-agencies-whats-your-say/

      And no this is not crab mentality, their clients are being mis-informed

  • nina

    Hows the mighty waikato river,last time ive been there the river overflowed (was january i think)well grace try harder,ever heard of middlemore hospital or waitemata?? Thats false assumption on your part..it is true that there are agencies abound there with such offers,but reality is most of the people i know used it as a stepping stone. And hello look at them now,where they are. You must be new to hamilton??? It all boils down to how people deal with it.

    please dont discourage our fellow kababayans at the philippines. You do know how much are cars here right? Reality is everyone starting from the cleaners owns a car. You are not seeing the whole picture. Now tell me how are you now? Didnt you use said agencies as well?

    You are only looking at one side of the picture. Dont generalized./

    Fact : you need BIG investment to secure a good viable future.

  • nina

    and you do know how strict it is NZ on laws right,so watch your saying its not a scam if its legit. 🙂

  • ARNY

    BETTER IDEA:
    FIND A NICE GUY LIKE ME TO FORM A SERIOUS, LOVING LONG TERM RELATIONSHIP……AND I WILL BE THE ONE TO BRING YOU TO USA.
    APPLICANTS NEED TO BE 18-26, SLENDER, PETITE, SINGLE, SWEET, CARING, LOVING & SEXY.
    PLZ CONTACT ME DIRECT ON YM….C2C…..arnyguapo2

    “i shall return” to PH for my 10th visit…..next month…..lets meet.

    XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO
    ARNY